i used the censored one on purpose i just wanted to know why their was a nordic cross, This was never an official flag used by the German Nation. nandhp 11:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]. [16] The second design is repeatedly wrongly attributed to Ernst Wirmer himself. Nordic flags in Germany were historically used to allude to the nation's Norse heritage and Nordic origins. I think St. George's cross should be mentioned. Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet January 18, Wednesday Unofficial flag of the KomiRepublic used by activists. I would hava added it, but I didn't find it in Wikipedia articles (and I don't know the exact dimensions and colour codes). I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. In 1844, pro-German nationalists in the two duchies of Holstein and Schleswig created a blue-white-red tricolour as a symbol for independence which began to see widespread use. Its a censored version used in the game Hearts of Iron 4. Service flag of the Free State of Prussia, The same as the previous flag, but the phrase, Flag of the German Confederation, used in 18481849 and again in 18631866. PSA: This is NOT the flag of the Byzantine Empire. I removed the image, since it was under a non-commercial license, which has been disallowed since May of 2005. [14] It is believed that the Neubecker design may have influenced Wirmer later.[15]. & Russia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta.svg, This flag should be mentioned in the section "Flags elsewhere that feature the Nordic Cross or similar design", I am not sure if this flag is really a Nordic Cross flag. Second flag of the Kingdom in Prussia and first flag of the, A black eagle holding a sword and rod on a white field, a crown on top. It is speculated whether the heraldically wrong direction of the FDP eagle is a legacy of former NSDAP functionaries, who were numerously present in the young party. Red swords crossed on top of one another on a field. Ces. This violated the heraldic rule of tincture that between "colors" (here black and red) there must always be a "metal" (gold/yellow or silver/white). At various times in the past, nordic cross flags have been proposed for Germany, and both the German Empire and Nazi Germany used very attractive nordic cross flags as war ensigns. 2. Political issues and parties in Europe's nation states, the E.U. Flag of Saarland which was given by French Government. This Nordic cross German flag has been added on the basis of Original Research, which is forbidden to be used on wikipedia articles. WebWirmer Flag. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 19:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], The problem with these unofficial flags is that they are not used, not regognized, and -- in some instances -- were newly created by some random people. [28], There are no legal restrictions on the Wirmer flag - unlike the Reichskriegsflagge ("imperial war flag"), which produces a similar effect, and which even in the version without the swastika can be seized by the police for "violation of public order". Shouldn't it be on the list? First appeared within the, A tricolour, made of three equal horizontal bands coloured black (top), white, and red (bottom), Merchant flag variant with the Iron Cross (, A red field, with a white disc with a black. Some are oficial and some are not. According to this report, Josef Wirmer had revised his design once again and added a thin black line between gold and red, which corresponds to the Balkenkreuz ("bar cross") of the German war flags. They sure contain a cross, anyway, and I guess they're somehow related to the scandinavian cross. These flags are highly questionable and were removed from the article page: Inge 18:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have removed the Unofficial "Teutonic-Celtic" flag because it appears to have been designed by a Wikipedian for use in Template:User Teutonic-celtic origin; see Image talk:Nordic-celtic flag.svg. Nordic Cross Ukraine. Italy is now just Smland. Some of the most insane proposals for the Confederate New evolution of the gradient flag: the Kirby dot flag. So you can use the Snowflake emoji, or even the Snowman emoji to represent the place. Above all, it stands for a free and tolerant society. Maybe deserves a mention on the page? [6][7][8] Due to its high presence at the Dresden Pegida demonstrations, the flag was also referred to as the "Pegida flag" in some media reports. USA flag, Papal flag, and two flags representing the the Martinique officially adopted this new flag yesterday Last week was fun. Christina. I have left it unchanged. This no longer had the cross offset to the hoist in Scandinavian style, but centered with horizontal arms of equal length. The idea was allowed to flourish in Germany west of the Iron Curtain in 1949 before finally consummating itself in 1990. why is there a picture of college in brauns stream? The following 92 files are in this category, out of 92 total. [20] The bill's draft read: "The flag of the Federation shows a black cross lying on a red background with a superimposed golden cross." Note that the white lines are not visible on the flag itself, yet it is still seen as bearing a Nordic Cross as it represents a boiled Swedish flag. This affects, The one claiming (today) to be for Vstergtland was, in fact for West Sweden. [27], In 1999, Reinhold Oberlercher, as the thought leader of the neo-Nazi German College, with which the right-wing extremists Horst Mahler and Uwe Meenen are affiliated, proclaimed the Wirmer flag as the possible national flag of the "Fourth Reich" they aspire to. [18][19], Another version of the "cross flag" was submitted by the CDU. For the Nordic Council flag, see. A smaller black crowned eagle with yellow arm plates, a rod and orb, all on a white field with an Iron Cross in the upper-left corner. [25], With the end of its use as a party symbol, the various cross flags in black-red-gold disappeared from everyday life. and the nordic cross probably comes from the Teutonic order flag and the colors are the imperial german colors Hitler wanted to use. Norway has a couple of connections with other countries. Inge 15:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]. At this time period the Saar was a satellite state of France. Death camps and democracies. Merchant flag variant with the Iron Cross. In his opinion, the Christian cross was the most suitable as a symbol of the new state. [citation needed], Allied Control Council (19451949) and Saar Protectorate. Ernst Wirmer, now a member of the Parlamentarischer Rat (Parliamentary Council), persuaded the delegates of the Union parties and the German Party to adopt his brother's second draft on 16 October 1948, and to propose it on 5 November, while the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) preferred the old tricolour of the Weimar Republic which prevailed in the end. I agree totally. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 17:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], I am not sure what the source of your statement "national flags are protected by all countries" is. Found this flag at an antique mall. Here's an analogous Nordic Cross flag family tree. JennieM 17:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I believe the flag of Prnu should be added under 'other nordic flags witht the nordic cross', due to it being the official flag of Prnu, Estonia [4], Why has the Vendsyssel flag been "whitened"? Its Saarland offshoot, the Democratic Party Saar (DPS), reversed the eagle's viewing direction to the (heraldic) right. What about Saint Piran's Flag, the flag of Cornwall? In a poll in the Parliamentary Council, 25 percent of the members voted for a return to the black-red-gold tricolour in the tradition of the Weimar Republic, 35 percent had no opinion or abstained. 6 years ago. Its gold cross outlined in black on a red background retained the Scandinavian offset. The states appointed representatives to the Parlamentarischer Rat, which in the end voted on the flag of the new Germany. [5] As a result, the flag became popular in the movement, which at the time received little media and social attention and was thus increasingly used by right-wing extremist and populist groups, which were met with criticism from various sides. Netherlands one might look better flipped. That's it. A Nordic wave from crest to crest, a Baltic particle from edge to edge. A bicolor design white and black, split horizontally. Nordic flags in Germany were historically used to allude to the nation's Norse heritage and Nordic origins. The FlagofGreenland is the only national flag of a Nordic country or territory without a Nordic Cross. Common national flag of principalities of, Proposal for the flag for West Germany by Paul Wentzcke, based on, Proposal for the flag for West Germany by. Today, the Nordic cross is a feature in some city and district flags or coats of arms. A non-rectangular flag depicting an Imperial Eagle in the center of a white field, and in the upper-left corner, an Iron Cross is shown. "[30][34] Parts of the New Right see the flag as a sign of "Secret Germany". Used in conjunction with the, Flag of World Vexillological Research Institute. The flag then disappeared from public perception. looks like Belarus but I have MARTINIQUE : The 18 flags that were not elected (+ the 11 January 2021: Mississippi adopts a new flag in place Why does Syria currently use the flag of the United Arab Press J to jump to the feed. And an article titled Nordic Cross Flag and about flags bearing a Nordic cross could probably do without the Nordic flags without the Nordic cross section. On the cross rested an eagle with the party initials facing (heraldically) left. Although the participants agreed on the national colors black-red-gold, the shape of the national flag remained a point of contention. WebThe German Flag: The Fall & Rise of the Bundesflagge Empires and petty kingdoms. Thus the flag of S-H, while identical to the Danish flag, was the flag of a separate state and deserves its own place. Meditate, brother! I am not aware of any treaty that requires a municipality to get permission from a country to use a similar flag design. All structured data from the file namespace is available under the. Why is there a grilled meat piece in the titanium geodes USA flag, Papal flag, and two flags representing the the Martinique officially adopted this new flag yesterday Last week was fun. It certainly has been in use. It looks like the Swedish flag, so I guess it should be on this page too. The Young Union adopted as its symbol a badge with a color row like Neubecker's design: a red cross outlined in gold on a black background. It is the notion that history 'did not turn' in Germany in 1848, the liberal national idea was killed by the princes and aristocrats of Austria and Prussia above all. How is the Flag of the Highlands of Scotland not fictional? This is what the Union Jack would look like if it were a Nordic Cross flag. --Himasaram 06:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], This supposed "1871-1892" German flag which was posted here is spreading across wikipedia's flags pages. All variations on a theme, essentially differing only in colour patterns, the flags feature a horizontal cross aligned along the latitudinal. [9][10][11], In the booklet Die Reichseinheitsflagge ("The Unity Flag of the Reich"), the vexillologist Ottfried Neubecker proposed in 1926 a flag in the color sequence black-gold-red as a compromise in the dispute over the German national flag ("Flaggenstreit"). This category has the following 7 subcategories, out of 7 total. Die schwedische Flagge ist blau mit einem gelbem Kreuz. Nothing in United law, to my knowledge, prevents a citizen from using or even desecrating a flag (including, incidentally, the United States flag - see Flag_burning#The_United_States). The so-called Scandinavian crosses or Nordic crosses on the flags of the Nordic countriesDenmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Swedenalso represent Christianity. ^ Carol A. Foley. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], What is the story with the flag of Verona in Italy? jnestorius(talk) 22:39, 19 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]. General Sherman transfer[], People who think the Earth is cooling right now ar[], still, Muscovy (as an empire) will collapse i[], They are still much better than Democrats. Banners were of various lengths, which were hung vertically on public buildings. In December 1948, the Allensbach Institute for Public Opinion Research polled about 1,000 people in the three western zones about their preferences concerning a national flag. The CDU, CSU and German Party feared that this would provoke a "disastrous flag dispute". Today, the Nordic cross is a feature in some city and district flags or coats of arms. Only one that can beat it is the empire's battle flag. WebProposal by Ernst Wirmer for the German flag from 1948 More flags Civil flag of the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg 1871-1918 More flags - albeit sometimes unintentionally or So, this is an imaginary flag, created specifically for some video games to censor the swastika, based largely on the flag of the German navy of the time (NSFW), derived from the flag of the Imperial German navy, inspired by the flag of the Teutonic order. This is what the Union Jack would look like if it were a Nordic Cross flag. In the center of the Iron Cross, the Imperial Eagle with a crown right on top of the eagle is shown. The same design, but with a red Nordic cross on a yellow background, was used as union flag during the Kalmarunion (1397 to 1523), and when that union fell apart in 1523 the same design, but with a yellow cross on a blue background (derived from the Swedish coat of arms adopted in 1442), was adopted as national flag of Sweden, while Norway adopted their flag in 1821. The Wirmer flag remained well known in vexillologist circles and appeared in corresponding publications. Posted by. [12] He made two proposals for this: firstly, a tricolour in this color sequence, and secondly, a red Nordic Cross, outlined in gold, on a black background. Nordic flag designs very similar to Denmark 's, Sweden 's, and Norway 's national flags were proposed as Germany's national flags in both 1919 and 1948, after World War I and World War II, respectively. Most municipalities have unique flags. This page was last edited on 6 January 2023, at 19:48. Flags for the Nordic countries using crosses, usually Scandinavian cross. The Wirmer Flag ( German: Wirmer Flagge ), also known commercially as Nordic Cross Poland. Flag bearing the design of the Nordic or Scandinavian cross, "Nordic flag" redirects here. WebThe Norway flag is a red flag with a blue cross with white borders. Flag of the PrincipalityofSnakeHill, a micronation in Australia. Today, the Nordic cross is a feature in some city and district flags or coats of arms. Flag of the Danish monarch, flown in his capacity as Duke of Holstein, Schleswig and Lauenburg. The three duchies were ceded to Austria and Prussia in 1864 as a result of the SecondSchleswigWar. Proposed National flag of Germany, circa 1919. The tricolour of the Weimar Republic received 35 percent, 15 percent favored the "cross flag," 10 percent rejected both proposals, and 40 percent expressed indecision or disinterest. 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